The Kardashians: This is a Pregnancy Podcast

Buckle up for an emotional roller coaster of an episode. We discuss Kylies confidence, Kims "Entourage"  moment, and of course Kourtneys oh so touching birth story.  Of course we share some personal stories, maybe a little too personal...

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Without cameras, it was a big change for us. This is a live, hot take. This is going to be amazing. Let's go. The wind, you guys, this is really necessary. I'm ready. Hello everyone and welcome back to Hot Cakes. Happy Friday, Friday morning. What a great time. What a great time to be alive. Wish I was there. How's everyone doing today? We're recording Thursday night to get the show up Friday morning. How are we feeling? Ladies, Christian still pregnant. What's going on? So pregnant. Yeah. How are you feeling? Pregnant AF. Uh, I feel terrible, but I feel like she could come. I feel like she's going to come this weekend. That's my bet too, honestly. I think I was thinking about it earlier. I think she's going to be born Sunday. Really? Yeah. What day of the week? What's the date on that? The 23rd? Yeah, that's my bet. That would be really funny actually, because my whole pregnancy, I thought my due date was the 23rd and when I switched providers, um, I asked her a few weeks ago, like, Oh, what is my due date again? And she was like, it's the 27th. And I was like, what? I thought it was the 23rd. And mom gets it tomorrow, right? Yeah, mom gets here tomorrow night. I don't know if this is TMI, but I'm getting my membrane swept tomorrow afternoon. And when I did that with Perry, I had her like, the next morning. I go into the hospital and had her the next morning. So, like, if that stands, then maybe I have her on Saturday. Yeah. Have they like, checked you at all or are you dilated at all or anything? Um, I haven't been checked yet, but they'll check me tomorrow. Mm mm. But there's, I mean, in my head, there's no way I'm not dilated because I've been having contractions. Mm It's on and off, like a week. So it has to be like, there's motion in the ocean. Why don't you just have Ammon check you? Oh, because I would rather die. Yeah. Do you feel like that was the case in your previous pregnancies of just like having contractions for like a week or two leading up? No, it's been so, this has been so different. Yeah. Cause I don't recall that either. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No, I didn't have like premature contractions with either of the other two, but I was dilated to like a three Like when I when I got checked with both of the other two, so I don't know But yeah This is my first time having like contract because I keep because like even last night I had two or three and I was kind of like, oh my gosh, is it gonna happen tonight? And then nothing happened Yeah. So here we are wild. It's a wild thing. Yeah. I'd like to place my bet on Tuesday. I'm feeling like, I know you don't want that for yourself, but I think it could be Tuesday. So that's where I'll put my money. Okay. Say energy. I don't know why. Well, that's exciting. We're glad to have you for. Another week we have, you'll have a maternity leave coming up from the pod. So put your request in now. Who do you want to hear from? We've had some special guests before. Um, Sarah has always been a fave. We've had Trav, we've had Jordan. Do we bring in Carter, my husband, he actually watched with me today. So, you know, let us know who you want to hear from. No one can truly replace Christian, but we can try our best. I think we've got to get Trish on. We've got to get her on the pod. Our other sister in law, just to kind of round, round it out. All the Berry girls. I like that. What about you, Morgz? I feel like you have a pretty huge update for the pod. You're not wrong. Um, I am so proud and happy to announce that we won our pickleball tournament Monday night. Let's go! Day one listeners have been with me on this pickleball journey from going to not even winning a single game or sometimes not even scoring a single point. We pulled it out Monday night, didn't get home till midnight. I'm still physically trying to recover from the effort that that was, but it was a lot of fun and we feel, you know, super good. I like can't stop. Talking about it. I'm like, who else can I tell that I, that I won? Do you have a message for your haters? You had some people hating on your pickleball journey last season. Someone that we know. Yeah. Yeah. My sister in law, Sarah, thought I wasn't ever gonna see my dreams come to fruition. And actually it's so funny, both her and my brother in law, not either of your husbands, sent me this reel about how Like 2023 goals, get better at pickleball. And then like, you see the text back, the text box erased from 2023 to 2024. Like they both sent me that real. So, um, I've accomplished it. I can say I'm better for sure. So yeah, it's a true Cinderella story. Right. We've, we've Haven't given up, we've been working at this and even in this tournament, it was double elimination and we made it to, essentially to the semifinals, lost, then had to go play in the loser's bracket, make our way back up and then beat a team twice in a row because of the double elimination. So yeah, we, uh, you know. We gave it our all and it came out, we came out on top. Oh, sorry guys. Sorry for the interruption. What's the interruption? We didn't hear anything. Oh, okay. Well, My FaceTime just went off. Sorry. No, didn't hear it. I'm super proud of you, Morgan. Congratulations. You deserve it. Just really, one day it might be me. We'll see. You should get out there. I don't know if I already said this on the pod, but when we played together a couple of weeks ago, I was really impressed with just, you were way better than I had last seen you. And I know you don't play that frequently. So if you're that good without practice. Yeah. Imagine what would happen if I was out there practicing. I'll let you have your moment and then I'll step it up. Thank you. Well, I have a huge life update if anyone cares. Yeah. Do you care? Give it to us. Nobody asking about me. Um, I moved. I'm currently in my new house and I'm just, I really love it. I was feeling super overwhelmed by moving. I think most people feel that way. We got it all done on a Saturday and then Sunday got settled in and just feel like yeah. Just the energy is good. It's an actual house. We were living in an apartment complex. This is like a real town home. So we have a front door. I'm gonna put like plants out there. We have a balcony. I was thinking maybe I should buy like a little basil plant and put it out there. Not the basil. Yeah, so that's my big life update. Noelle was fully moved in by Sunday evening. She's sending us videos with pictures on the wall. There's not a box in sight. Oh, yeah. Like it was just that's insane. No, I don't. I don't play around. And Sunday morning, I kind of had a meltdown. And I felt like our mom, I just looked at Carter and I was like, um, because We were going to go to his family's house for father's day. And I was like, look, we're not going over there until this is all taken care of. So if you want to go see your family, we need to put, we need to get everything done. And he, he got his butt into shape and was helping me hung everything for me. It was great. I just feel like this whole time you were moving. You're like, I have so much stuff. It's so much stuff. It's so much stuff. If you got. Unpacked in a day. It's not that much stuff. And I've been to your apartment. You don't have, you're, you're like a minimalist. You have nothing. It is not that much stuff. And every time I get on Facebook, she's selling something. Oh yeah. Well, that's what I was going to say. I sold like everything. So, and for the last like six months, you've been selling clothes like crazy. Like you don't even have any clothes. I can't be bothered with things like, Oh, she is not a materialistic girl. Now, if it doesn't bring me joy, I pull it out. I sit with it. If it doesn't bring me joy, I'm getting rid of it. Yeah. I'm just kidding. I don't actually do that, but I should. So yeah, very exciting things happening for all of us. Christian's gonna hopefully give birth. I'm settling in, gonna get myself a puppy here soon. Morg's winning pickleball championships. Great things all around. Yeah. Should we dive into, um, this week's episode? I mean, there's only one thing we all want to talk about. Like, how do we even address the first half of the episode? Let's do our best to address, and then we'll use the majority of the episode. For what we really want to talk about. Okay. Yeah. Okay. Breeze through let's breeze through the highlight. So open up the episode going to Kim and Balenciaga fashion show, what are your thoughts on that? Because there's a lot of, there was. some big controversy around Balenciaga. I almost feel like a year ago, a few months ago. Um, and, and for her to like, she's still wearing it and we know that, but then to put on the show, going to a fashion show, supporting them, I don't know. It felt a little bit like, okay, Kim, you need to let this go. Well, and she's like fully a brand ambassador now, she said. Which I don't even know, I don't know what that means, but she was like, I'm sure everyone thought I was before, but now I actually am. Yeah, so apparently she made a post after the whole Balenciaga thing, which I can't remember all the details now, but they just had weird campaigns around children, like they're Their photography was weird. So they had kids wearing shirts with like teddy bears in bondage. And then they also had some teddy bears in bondage. On the set, like, and apparently there's a lot of underlying messages from that around, like, child abuse or, um, like, that is a symbol for trafficking. Yes, so, yeah. So she, I know she made a post on her Instagram of, like, I'm talking with Balenciaga, we're investigating, you know, I'm, I'm investigating this further. And then, I think she just never stopped wearing Balenciaga, like I don't, she made a statement that she was like kind of, you know, looking into it, feeling it out, making sure everything was kosher, and then just kept with it. Yeah, I mean, again, for me, this is just like Kim is the villain of the season, like I, I wish she would have addressed, she never addressed any of this on the show. And yeah, it's like the one post and honestly, like watching that fashion show for me was just like bad vibes. Like it was so creepy. I think that Balenciaga just kind of like embodies like everything that's wrong with Hollywood like all of the bad things about like Hollywood and fame and money and it just, it freaks me out like these like weird costumes and outfits that people are wearing on the runway. It's just, it's just too much. It's so like, The capital versus like, you know, us and district 12. Yeah, exactly. Like that's how it feels. And yeah, I'm just like, so bugged that Kim is so like, has never like stood her ground with any of this. And she won't let it go. I feel like there's just. We're looking at a version of sex tape Kim who's just like so stubborn against the fact of like No one ever thought I could make it in high fashion And now i'm here with one of these brands that she can't even like Stand up or grow a backbone against one of them because she worked so hard to get into high fashion. So I felt similarly to, I was like, kind of just like, this is pathetic. You should let this go. You're someone who is a trendsetter can do really influence. society and how they view these companies and you kind of suck for this. She doesn't need Balenciaga. Like we saw her do the whole Dolce show last year. So she could have let that go easily. And the fact that she didn't is weird. They're so family oriented, their children are so important to them. So the fact that they couldn't just stand up and be like, you know what, they crossed a line. Therefore, I need to step step away from my relationship with Balenciaga. Which that's a, yeah, that's a really good point. Morgan. It makes me wonder for, so Chloe doesn't come and we get this clip of Kim kind of making some comments about how she thinks Chloe has agoraphobia, which is fear of leaving her house. Um, and part of me was like, well, maybe Chloe's not there because she doesn't want to be. You know, I feel like she's not as closely tied to Balenciaga and with it being in the daylight and whatever else, she's like, you know what, actually, this isn't a good look for me because I am the one that cares about children and all of these things. Do you think there's any of that to it? Or truthfully, like she just didn't want to go out on the town. I had that thought for a second, but I'm sure that they're all still wearing Balenciaga. Oh, Chloe's definitely still, they all still wear it. I mean, we see it in interviews. Wearing it's different than showing up to the fashion show, in some ways, publicly. I just, maybe, maybe. I kind of disagree. I mean, I think if you're, if you're wearing it, you're supporting them. Especially when you're on that stage, like this isn't like Nike's, you know, this isn't like District 12, like, not wearing Nike's because they didn't like something that Nike did. This is like the richest people. In America who have the most influence who are continuing to wear a brand out in public that has proven to be extremely problematic. But, um, I just think it's, it's so bizarre to me that they even like filmed that, you know? Like, I think that they are self aware enough. Like these are the, some of the brightest, like most in tune with like what's going on people and I would think that they would be smarter or that they would think something like that through before showing up and filming and then producing. My gosh, my kid's going crazy. Anyway, I just thought it was even on the show. Yeah, it's, it's tone deaf and it makes you like want to become a conspiracy theorist and be like, okay, so what does Kim or the Kardashians have? As a whole, like, what part are they playing in the, you know, Hollywood child trafficking that you always hear about? Mm hmm. Totally. Definitely giving some fuel to the conspiracy theorists, for sure. So, that's really all I have to say about the whole thing. Yeah. Any other thoughts? Nah, I think, I think we've, I think everyone knows what we think. Mm hmm. Yeah, so after that, we get our time with Kylie and Kendall, which I always love. It starts out with them trying to pull this prank, um, on Kris, taking her dog and getting it like cut as one of those like, bougie poodle looks, you know, where they just have like hardly anything and then poofy little boots for feet and stuff. Um, I thought that was all really fun. I have, I have to tell you. So Carter was watching it with me, which he usually doesn't, but they go over and Corey, like he shows up in the clip and then he goes away and then he comes back. And I rewatch it because Carter. Just said, does he just keep putting on another chain every time he comes back into the room? So we rewinded it and it was hysterical. Sure enough. One chain on the first time he shows up. Second time, there's two chains out. Third time, there's three chains now. Oh my gosh. That's amazing. It was so good. So I wanted to share if anyone else caught that, but, um, what do you think about just, let's, let's talk about the prank first. I wish they could have pulled it off. Like, that would have been an awesome prank. Yeah, I'm kind of with Chris. Like, the, the lack of effort was disappointing in their prank. But I'm always just curious about their pet situation. Like, you see them get pets, specifically dogs, and then you don't see them. See anything about them ever again, or we've seen some kittens come along too. And so I just wonder, I'm like, are they sending these animals back? Do they actually have all these dogs? Like I know one point in time, like highly had a whole litter of those. Yeah. Yeah. She took them on a walk with Scott, like a season or two ago. Right. I know. Bambi was one of them. Norman. And Norman. Yeah. I bet they keep them. I'm sure they do. I bet they have At their house? No. I bet they have like another house. Like A dog house. But they just have like a huge like dog area that they have someone who just tends to them. But yeah, I was like surprised when I saw that Labradoodle. I'm like, wait a second. What about her? Like 15, like skinny, scary dogs. Yeah, I was loving that just because that dog looked like one that I'm really would want to get. Like, I just thought it was so cute and fluffy. Oh my gosh. And honestly, like, that's why I feel like that's relatable when people think about like, what would you do with all that money? Like, yeah, if I saw a cute puppy, I would buy it and pay someone to take care of it for me. True. So the, I thought it was hilarious. Chris calls them out on the prank failing, and then they go over and have what Kylie was referring to as a little therapy session, just talking about like her. Her confidence and the difficulty, uh, growing up in the spotlight. Yeah, what did you guys think about this? Cause, I, so Ammon watched it with me last night and he was extremely critical of that whole conversation. He was sort of like, look, scroll through her Instagram, which like I'm scrolling through her Instagram. And he's just like, she has made a living off of her looks. Like she isn't, her Instagram isn't like the outdoorsy, sporty girl Instagram. She's not like talking fashion advice. She's literally like thirst trap after thirst trap after thirst trap, like being super hot, looking super sexy. And he was just like, you know, that's if that's how you are going to Be famous, stay famous, is by your looks, and like, you have to be, you have to just deal with people talking about your looks. And, I mean, I kind of educated him because he didn't know that she was, do you guys know the specific, like, picture she's talking about? No. No. There were some pictures taken during Paris Fashion Week when she's wearing that, um, like strapless white gown at like a, she's actually sitting next to, um, the mom from Gossip Girl. Oh, right, yes. At this fashion show, whichever show it was. And yeah, she's supernatural, like hair's down very little makeup. She's very natural looking. But there were some pictures taken of her that were not super flattering. Like she, it looks like she just has like these weird, I don't even know how to explain it. Like bumps on her face or like, like her skin just looks odd. And everyone's just like, there was like a month straight where every reel on Instagram was either a dermatologist or a plastic surgeon or someone like analyzing these pictures of her face and talking about, Oh, this is what happens when you get too much filler. And this is what the, this is called. They have a name for it when the filler, like, Starts to mess up your, the shape of your face and it over expands and da, da, da, da, da. And like, yeah, and she was, she was totally picked apart by that picture. I mean, of course there were people who were like, leave her alone. She looks beautiful. But there was just a lot of chatter around that specific. There were like two or three pictures where, yeah, she had these like weird, her face just looked a little weird. And pillow face is what they've been calling it. Pillow face. Yeah. That's a Tik TOK phrase. And they usually will show up a picture of Kylie of like the filler expanded or like whatever. Yeah. So anyway, I mean, what are you guys thoughts? Like, does she, like, should she just get over it because she's beautiful and she's like a sex figure and that's who she wants to be and that's gonna come with the job? Or do we need to do better as a society? No, I completely disagree with Ammon. He's definitely in the wrong on this topic. Well, I see the point that he was making. It's not like Miss Rachel out there getting these comments, you know, Miss, Miss Rachel isn't someone who makes her Her living off of her beauty. She's doing something totally different. And she's getting comments about her looks and her body. And she's like, that's not what I'm about. Right. I'm just saying, I understand Ammon's point where it's like, this is what you put out to people is your looks. Therefore you're going to get both sides. But that's part of the problem. That whole, like, that means that any, no one can post any picture ever then. And I feel like. I've obviously never something came up for me while I was watching this. She mentions, I have had disgusting comments said about me ever since I was 14 years old, and that can mean a wide variety of things. And I actually have had one experience in my life that I will never forget. Um, there was a lot of tea revolving it. I pretty much exposed this guy for cheating on his girlfriend. And then he came at me, and he was saying the most disgusting things. Things about me and he brought up my Instagram and he brought up the pictures I've posted in a swimsuit And I, I'm serious, you guys. I felt disgusting. I feel sick just thinking about it right now. And he was blaming me and shaming me and telling me that I'm part of the problem as to why guys can't control themselves, right? Because he was trying to hit on one of my friends who had posted pictures in a certain outfit. And then I was like, you have a girlfriend and all of these things, right? And, Having that experience is like, so we can, we can never be sexy because if I'm being sexy and I, God forbid, want to post that, that gives everyone else permission to talk shit about my body and how I look right. So like, I think that that point is invalid and it's a huge part of the problem and why can't we ask society to be better? Yeah, no, I see what you're saying. I, I mean, I, I'm kind of in the middle. I'm a little bit in the middle. I think when you're making your, when your career and, and Ammon's kind of like, and she's talking about this with a supermodel. So like both of these women, their careers are based off how they look. Like that is their career. That is their job, is like their looks are their job. And so just like anyone else, You're gonna be, like, your job is going to be talked about, you know? And, are you a good actress? Are you good at this? Are you good at that? And I do think, like, there are lines that shouldn't be crossed. But, I think, in Kylie's position, it sucks. But, she is going to be talked about. Her looks are going to be talked about. Because that's how she is making money. Yeah, but think about like, if someone was over, uh, millions of people were overly critical of your job, like if people were constantly criticizing how I was a therapist and how I was doing this and how I sucked or how you guys suck as a mom and can never get anything right. It's like, like I'm with Kendall of the sense of like, yes, and we're still human and we're allowed to have feelings and people shouldn't be such. Yeah. Like so disgusting and jerks about it. No, I agree like they're right. You're obviously you're gonna have Reactions to the comments that you're getting but it's just kind of what you signed up for Yeah, I mean I have no There is nowhere in my brain that I can even begin to understand why someone would comment something negative on anyone's posts, much less like a stranger that you've never met, like, famous person, like, why, like, I just, that blows my mind. Trolls blow my mind. I have no understanding of why they think that that's an okay thing to do. But I will say, Noelle, if you were an Instagram famous therapist, you would be getting all kinds of shit. If we were Instagram famous moms, we would be getting all kinds of shit. Like, it's part of what comes with fame. And I'm not saying it's a good thing at all. I'm not, but it's part of the gig and you're, you know, the youngest billionaire, the youngest self made billionaire. Built this empire off of your own beauty and you know, I mean, she is a beautiful girl and she probably gets as much positive attention as she does negative. Um, and so it is good that, yeah, she's, she's like, I am still able to look at myself and feel beautiful and da, da, da, da, da. I'm like, good for her, but she should. But, and not to say that she can't complain about it or be frustrated with it, but that's just kind of like how it goes when you're living your life in the limelight and you're making a career off of how you look. Yeah. I agree. Should society do better? Obviously, of course. People should always be doing better and spreading kindness rather than just saying nasty things about people. But you, yeah, when you have, you know, half, you know, millions of followers, hundreds of millions of followers, it's just going to come with the territory. Which is true, and I also, I feel like I just have a special empathy for Kendall and Kylie because they didn't choose this life. Right? Like they were born into the fame and granted they could step away and kind of hide, hide away like Rob's done for privacy. And so I get all of that. It's just, I don't know. I have to be, to have to be exposed to it at such a, from such a young age is definitely way harder than Kim having released a sex tape and writing that those coattails all the way to where she is as an adult too, like an adult the entire time. Yeah, and I just, I think that It's, I really believe what Kylie said when she said it's a miracle that I have any confidence at all. Because it, even if she's getting the same amount of positive comments, fun fact, it takes, there's a three to one ratio. So for every one negative thing someone says about you or that you have in a relationship, three positives have to happen to make up for that. Which obviously she has all this money and all those things, like I get all of that, but I do think that. It is a miracle that she's as confident as she is and carries herself that way. Cause even having like one negative thing said about me, like, I can't take that. That's true. And I mean, it is kind of interesting to put yourself in her shoes a little bit, because, like, I can't remember the last time someone said something negative about me. Do you know what I mean? Yeah. Right. Like, To your face, too. Yeah, exactly. Like, on your feed. Yeah, like, I just, I think it's been probably since high school that, like, I've heard mean things said about me. And so, yeah, to, like, have, to be exposed to that on a regular basis would be, um, Very jarring. Yeah. Yeah. But as always, she's carrying herself with grace and loving her every time she comes on the show. I think she does a good job of trying to protect herself as well. Like, we didn't know she was pregnant with Stormi. Like, she keeps her personal relationships off the show and then not even very public outside of that. So I do think she is doing the best that she can to keep the things that are near and dear to her more private. So that they're not as open to all the criticism that she is regularly getting. So there's two like little stories before we get to our biggest story and most exciting and emotional story. Um, Chloe and Malika. Go to a farm. I'd swear Chloe goes to a farm at least once a season. Like I was having flashbacks to her going to see the bird. Maybe that's the only time she'll leave the house to go to a farm. Um, but they, they drive, they leave hidden Hills and, um, you know, just having some good girl time talking about dating people trying to make out with Malika, all of those things. I feel like I didn't get much new information from this season. You know, snippet of them together. Just more of Chloe, like defending herself and her choices. Um, I really appreciate one thing she said about, you know, it impacts your children to be dating and to bring people into their life. So I thought that was just a really great point that I hadn't heard her talk about much as far as why she's not dating. That's what stood out to me, too, is that she said, like, she knows that there's already a lot that has happened that will one day really mess with her kids. So she doesn't want to risk that happening again, which is totally fair, and maybe her sisters need to give her more credit for being so aware of that. Yeah, I mean I, I loved that she said that and that she's very self aware of that and it just, like, I just love Chloe even more. I feel like last season I was getting a little bit burnt out because there was just so much of this, like, anxiety talk that she was just, everything was, she's too anxious to do anything. And I feel like now we're kind of seeing this side of her that's like, it's not so much. And maybe, maybe it is still a lot of anxiety around being out in the public eye, which I can understand, but it's now, it's now we're seeing that it's more, this is just who she is. Like, she's just very happy and content living the life that she's living. And she's very focused on her children. Which, like, how can you not appreciate that and respect that? And she's very happy just, like, being at home with them. And, um, yeah, to hear how thoughtful she is about, like, yeah, this stuff with Tristan. It's gonna mess with them. And I want to be really careful about what else I do that might mess with them. Right. Yeah. And just to, just to finish off how endearing she was in that scene, her with all those kids was so cute. Like I had to thought, like, I don't like when random kids come and start talking to me on the playground. And she was just over there hugging everybody so good. Just, you could tell that that was her element. Like she has no problem sharing her scene. And being who she is with the right crowd. Right, and I was thinking too, like, if that had been Paparazzi or like other adults, you know, she probably would have like, had a nervous breakdown, but because it was just about the kids, she just was like, so sweet with them and like, totally in her element. Yeah, it was cute. Yeah, it was very, very cute. So after they go, and I don't even know if they, I don't think they got a goat after all, but I thought that was funny too, to watch the goats, hump their sisters and whatnot. Just classic, classic goat behavior, classic farm life. So throughout this, this episode, I was also thinking a lot about Entourage, the Mac show. I don't know if you guys have ever watched it. It's pretty old, um, but really good because Kim is going around from producer. Is it producers that she was going around to or just different studios? Yeah, different studios to pitch this movie that apparently Netflix ends up buying. And it was kind of funny to watch her gather all of her lifers together for a dinner and share it with them for them to all be like, wait, why don't you send this in the chat? They're like, this could have been an email. This meeting. Yeah, am and we were watching that together and he's like, so do they just all get together just to like listen to Kim talk like and, I mean, we've talked about this before, but I, I'm hoping that like, basically they just, they pr they produce it and they know that probably none of us care to hear what's going on with the lifers or other friends that we see them with. So they just only share the They only share the part of the conversation that Kim is about and who knows if. That's like if her lifers actually get to participate in the conversation and also share news that she's also excited about or if it's just all about Kim all the time. Right. I hope when the cameras aren't there that that's not the case. Yeah. Do you guys have any interest in this movie of, you know, she gave some information about it being like a female driven comedy? A hundred percent. I can't wait to watch it. But it was funny because as she's going around from studio to studio, Eamonn's like, Ugh, just sell it to Netflix. They'll buy anything. Like, Netflix makes the most terrible movies. Like, the highest volume of terrible movies. Like, of any platform. They have no, they do not care. They just want big names, and they don't care how bad the movie is. Like, every movie I've tried to watch on there is below, like, a 6. 0 on IMDb, and we just kind of have, like, a standard in our house where we don't watch anything below a 7. And so, I'm sure it's not gonna be great, but I can't wait to watch it. Well, I thought it was funny that she was like, I'm only in, I'm only setting aside other projects if we have the biggest cast, like if we're really doing this. So I'm interested to see, you know, who they get on this because it just sounds like a glorified Hallmark movie, to be honest. And she has her expectations set a little too high for your first movie appearance, but yeah, we'll see. I'll definitely watch it, but I guarantee it's not going to be the blockbuster. Winning movie of the year. not a chance. Yeah. It was hilarious to see her talk about how she won't be able to show emotion because of all of her work. So true. She's definitely gonna be a method actor. yeah, for sure. So now let's, let's get on to the most important part of the episode. I The beat? Yeah, the beat of the episode. I, first of all, shocked by how much we got of Courtney's story. I, truthfully, a part of me was thinking that we would only have that snippet. Um, that we got at the end of last week's episode. So huge shout out to Travis for filming all of that. And like just being down, I'm sure it was for home videos, but to just share. Um, I was sobbing the whole time. I cried too. Can't even, I don't know what it is. Anytime I've watched like anyone's birth video that they like put on YouTube or something, I was just. I just sob. Do you just like, go on YouTube and search like, birthing? Oh gosh no, I'd be terrified to see what comes up there. But you know, sometimes those influencers will have like, videographers and they have this music behind it and, so it was funny to see though, them go to the hospital then go back home. Like, so there was kind of some comedy to the way that the story panned out. Yeah. Your thoughts. Before we get to like gushing about the sweet parts, because I, I also got very emotional, but I was like, There were some dumb things that happened like there were some things that I really want to call out that are like I'm so annoyed by him first Number one is in this home video Travis says this is gonna be his first like vaginal delivery that he's ever seen and Courtney's like well I don't want you to like actually look at it. Yeah. Oh, okay Yeah, like I don't want to and I'm just like that is the most immature mindset I like I Oh, I cannot. I cannot with that stuff. Like, you're not going to watch the birth of your child because you're afraid it might, like, change your viewpoint of her vagina. Like, I asked Ammon that, I'm like, have you ever, he's, he's watched both of the births. He's going to watch this third one. I'm like, have you ever? He's like, there's literally nothing that could, there's nothing that could deter me. Like, I could see. Oh my gosh. No, I disagree. I feel like that's fair. No. Yes. I think it's like, you know, you don't need to, like, not everyone needs to physically see like poop and baby coming out from you. Well, I won't see it. And of all, I have never my biggest accomplishment, I've never pooped. Well, good for you. I don't think I have, at least they didn't tell me if I did, but my, they say you would know they say you would know. Yeah. My friend's husband, I was asking him one time and he was like, yeah, you can smell it. Oh, geez. Shoot. Anyways, I think that's an okay thing to want. And my husband is frankly, he's just way, way too queasy. Like he can, he can barely manage like standing beside me, much less like actually seeing a baby pop out. Now that's something that'll piss me off. A man blacking out while his wife gives birth. I can't with that. I cannot. No. After I knew that that was the case with our first delivery, and I looked over at him because the, the second time, the midwife was like, Oh, look, there's her head. And so he did take a little peek and like, saw that the head was like, right there. And I turned to look at him and I see him. I'm like, take care of yourself right now. I'm like, these nurses aren't going to take care of you. And I'm not saying anything else about it. So do what you need to do. Like, don't try to suck it up. Find yourself an apple juice, sit down if you need to, and then get back over here. I mean, okay, I get no, listen, it's one thing if it's gonna make you Pass out like we like that's that's one thing if you're just so queasy you can't handle it but the the excuse of like Oh, you're not gonna like be able to look at my vagina the same way once you see a baby come out of it I'm, like that is so immature and that is just so stupid Like if you can handle it if you can like if your body doesn't Get super queasy around stuff like that. Like you should be watching it and I stand by that Like this is these are honestly like for this for them. That's a once in a lifetime opportunity He's like they're not gonna have another baby. He's never gonna get to watch his wife. Push another baby out That's a once in a lifetime opportunity. Okay, you should be taking that and it's just it's such an incredible Like thing to do. I mean, I just don't know if I would want to see someone else I've heard, like, no one's offered me a mirror, but if they did, I'd be turning it down hardcore. I don't want to see that. So I just think it's okay if people are like, I don't, I don't need to see that. I want to see them pull, like, I want to see the baby as soon as it comes out and be there and like witness all of what goes into delivering the baby, but I don't have to have the vagina view. For it to still be like as meaningful. Okay, Christian, what else did you want to call out so that I can get to the part where I was sobbing? Okay, well, here's the other thing. I was so bugged. Well, first of all, I'm like, this isn't her first baby, so I'm so confused about why she's like, Hey, we got to go. It's time to go. We got to go to the hospital. And then she's like, dial it into a one. Yeah, I'm like you, like, you know, by then this is your fourth child, you know, when you're in labor, like your first one, there's a lot of question marks. You're not really sure like when, what you can get sent away, but any other normal person who goes to the hospital and is like, I'm in labor, they get triaged, they get checked. And if they, if they're below a certain dilation, they get sent home. Right. But she was like put into her own room and she, they were going to let her stay. Like she could have just stayed there and like labored for three more days in, in that room. So, right. That's obviously like not the normal woman's experience with birth. I wonder if that's a normal woman's experience who's had fetal surgery because that for me makes sense of like we need additional monitoring on the heart heartbeat because when the contractions are happening that that does put stress on the baby. So that's where my mind was. That's fair. If it's more high risk. But I'm glad that they let her go home because there's nothing more miserable than just sitting around in a hospital unnecessarily. True. Yeah, I didn't think about the fact that it was high risk, but I mean, I would assume that if it were like, if it were expected to be a high risk delivery, that they would have scheduled an induction date and not like, just let her wait to come in. Yeah. So I don't know. But yeah, I mean, those are my major. Like frustrations with what we all the focus on like, he's going to be a Halloween baby like Travis waking up the next morning and be like, Today's the day. Let's go back to the hospital. I know you're still not having contractions, but today is the day. How does he you don't know? I'm like, bro, you have no idea. Just because you want it to be a Halloween baby. I want this baby to be a June 20th baby, but There's only so much we can do. That's funny. So let's all go around and share when we cried and why. Should I start? Yeah, I don't remember the exact moment. Yeah, you start. I don't know. I feel like even this podcast episode is a rollercoaster of emotions and watching this episode was a rollercoaster of emotions. I'm high. I'm low. I'm all over the place. But I was, I started crying when Courtney was talking about like her fetal surgery and the, the clips of her, like, In the hospital bed after it happened, just like everything about that made me really emotional because I can't obviously never been pregnant. I so clearly never gone anything. Through anything like that, but just the idea of the, the, how scary that would be of being that far, that far along in a pregnancy and finding out that there's something really seriously wrong and her talking about, like, you know, how she has been doing this. It's positive healing and her praying and like all of those things, I just was like, I was overwhelmed crying. I'm like, yes, she has millions of dollars and I'm so glad she could get the best fetal surgeon in the nation and whatever else. But I was also just like, this is a miracle that medicine can even do these things. And so that like, and like the, you know, has the little clips of what it took for them to get to this pregnancy. Like so crazy to me. Yeah, um true. Hey, I was thinking too along that same vein when she talks about How the, the fluid started to come back into his lungs and how scary that was and then she watched that documentary on like the power of positive thinking and she like really just like shifted her mindset and it made me really want to watch this, this documentary because I am not by nature like a super anxious person but since having kids I have been Dealt with a lot, like, dealt with anxiety here and there, and I have so much anxiety around the first, like, several months of my babies being born. And so I was like, man, I really just need to, like, stop focusing on the fear and, like, Focus on the positive and, you know, see what that can do for me. Yeah, it was, it was so tender. And I just, I love her, her relationship with God. It's something we've seen like throughout seasons and episodes, they're always praying together. And you're right in that clip where she had just gotten out of the fetal surgery and just her gratitude for not only the doctors, but just like, yeah, this is a miracle, a gift from God that she's having this baby and we're all religious. And so it's. It's touching to, to see her recognize that. And then especially Christian and I being pregnant, like knowing that like, man, this is just an awesome, incredible thing that we get to experience. Yeah. The second time that I started crying when I sang this picture, I feel like I could cry right now, even just talking about it. When Chris showed up for some reason that made me so emotional because I feel like I'm literally gonna cry. I feel like there are just times in your life where you literally just want your mom. Yeah, don't cry. You're gonna set me off. Don't cry. Don't cry. 40 week pregnant woman? Like I had like a shitty shitty week last week and my mom is so far away And so you just like crave that so to see that Happening and I was like, I don't know it made me very emotional and then Travis was talking about like his mom passing away so I was like Okay, I like sent a picture to you guys crying then And now I'm crying again, but I was like, okay, fine. Mom can watch me give birth and be there with me. Like, I don't know how I feel when that actually happens, but just that whole thing, I was like, this is so relatable. And even as crazy as Chris is and how much of her and Courtney's relationship has like gone back and forth, like that maternal connection, you just need that sometimes no matter how old you are. And so I just thought that was beautiful. I agree. Especially what Travis was saying, like, let her be here. Like, if you have your mom and she has the opportunity to be a part of these experiences, let her be here that that was beautiful. And you're totally right. Like, I've been lucky enough to have my mom, like at my house, each time I've gotten home from the hospital and having her there, like, you know, there's no one that knows you like your mom and our mom, especially it's just the most so. There's not even words, like she's just so on top of it. She just takes care of everything. If she sees, sees a need, you don't have to ask her, it's already done. And so that is just, that's huge, especially when you're making such a huge transition. Yeah. Every time I've, Every time my mom has left after I've had a baby, I just have a meltdown. I just saw it. Yeah. Yeah. Literally me with no children still having a meltdown every time she leaves. Yeah, I mean, I think it's super beautiful and just the way Chris, you know, You know, I just love seeing these like kind of more human sides of them. Like we know she loves her children deeply and to see her just kind of show up and like, feel like, you know, I was just in the neighborhood, but she wasn't. Um, yeah, that was really beautiful for me. I got really emotional just watching the actual, like her pushing the baby out. Like I, I was like, Love. I don't love labor, but I love the feeling of pushing a baby out. Like, there is just nothing more, I don't know, it's like the most incredible experience. And so watching that, I was telling Morgan the other week, like, I'm just like not, I haven't felt excited at all. Like I've just, we've had a lot of stress in our life the last few months and taking care of two kids all day. Like I'm just, I don't really think about this baby that much. Cause I'm, my brain is just fried all day. And, yeah, I've just been like, I don't want to be pregnant, but I'm not excited about, like, starting over and being with a newborn, and, oh, it's just so much work, and da da da da da. And I feel a lot of guilt around that, but watching her push this baby out and then, like, meet him for the first time, I mean, It just, it, it made me so excited and like, I got so emotional and I'm, it just, I'm like so pumped now and like so ready and dying to meet her and yeah, like watching someone else do it, you're just like, oh, that is the coolest experience. Yeah. Yeah. That was when I was sobbing. I agree. That's what that was. That's the part that really got me too, because that is just having had that experience of them laying your baby on your chest is just, it is, it's wild. And I think that's totally fair, Christian. It's hard as more kids come along to stay as focused on the unborn baby, that's not requiring anything of you. And with my second pregnancy, there was like an influencer who was like a couple months ahead of me, and following her journey, like, really is what helped me buy into my own pregnancy. It's like, I don't have the time to think and document all this that like she's doing, but her paving the way for me, like really kept me on track of like being excited and focused. So I'm glad that you got this like a week before, you know, days before you're going to go into labor. I was thinking about you as I was watching it, I was like, I wonder what Christian's feeling like knowing that this is just so close for you. At first I didn't know if I'd be able to watch it. I was like, uh, I don't know if I can watch this, but then I'm glad I did. And actually I like, after I finished the episode, I was like so emotional. And I was like, wait, I don't even have, I've taken like four bump pictures. Like I have like this baby bless her heart. She's just been like such a back burner. And so I like came upstairs and took a bunch of pictures. That's cute. Yeah. I, so I wanted to ask now that I've cried and embarrassed myself on Spotify and Apple music and Amazon, wherever else you find this podcast. Um, I, I want to talk a little bit too about like your birthing techniques or methods, because I know everyone was like hating on Travis. It's drumming in the hospital room. I feel like Courtney's explanation as to why she was okay with that was super understandable. Um, and it was really big for them what song would be on while she's pushing and like doing all that. Obviously he's extremely connected to music, but is that something that you guys have done? Do you do birthing playlists? I've seen other influencers do that. What's it like for you? What's your method? Have you ever done music, Morgan? No. I haven't either. No. Really? But I kind of have a funny story. When I had Sloan, my water broke and it was like. immediate, really, really intense labor the second it broke. And it was like panic. Like, I was like panicked. Like, felt like I needed to push. We were still at my apartment. Like, we were like, Ammon's like running to get the car. And I was in so much pain. And it was just, there was a lot of fear. Like, I was very afraid she was just going to like come out. It was wild. And we're like in the car, it's like 2 in the morning, rushing to the hospital and Ammon's like putting the aux cord in and he's, he's trying to find a Drake song to play while he's driving and I'm just like, I'm like freaking out. I'm like so panicked. I swear, like, I couldn't listen to Drake for a few days after the baby. Oh, wow. It just like was bringing back PTSD. So did Ammon think that was gonna help? Like, I don't know. He's like, this is what she likes. Yeah. Like we never talked about that. We never talked about like having music in the delivery room. We never talked about like, yeah, I think he just had never seen me that like crazy, like that panicked. And I think maybe he thought it would help. I don't know. I do love music and I like, but I'm not, I'm not someone you would say who's like, you know, a music head or I don't know what the term even is. I enjoy music, but like, I probably put on a podcast a lot of time before I put on music. So I just listened to the toast while she pushes. Yeah, that's cool. Honestly, if there's an episode out, you know, I'm going to be listening to it or watching the Patriot. So it's never even really crossed my mind to have a playlist, but also, you know, leading up to everything I get is just, it's a high stress situation. And so I don't think having a curated playlist would impact me at all. Like it's not going to help. Yeah. Yeah. I feel like I could really benefit from having a playlist. It's when the day comes, just because when I'm, which obviously like exercising and running is way different than giving birth, but in some ways, like you have to go to a certain mental place. And I've found that there's certain songs that just take me there. And I'm like, okay, let's go. Let's effing do this, whatever this is. And I can like tap into a different side of myself. So I feel like I'll either, I'll either have some sort of playlist or one of my meditations that I've been listening to, like playing or, and probably this is the most likely option I'll have friends on as I'm pushing my child out because that show will put me in a Zen place no matter what's going on. Yeah. I don't think they. I've never seen a TV in a delivery room. Shut up, really? What? They had TV in their delivery room. Don't you watch TV after you give birth? That's a different room. They move you to a different room. Really? After you give birth. I'll have to bring my iPad. But there was a, there was a TV in my, in the room that I delivered in, for sure with my first baby. I'm sure there is. Actually, you're right, there totally was, because I guess you're waiting around for a while sometimes. Yeah. Yeah, there, there was, there was a TV, that's true. I probably wouldn't have it on while I'm like, actually, like, you know, I should probably try to be pregnant for the birth of said child. So I was like, I'm just zoning out to friends, you just tell me when stuff, tell me when, um. Well, we should have had Trish on this episode because she just doula ed her, her own sister's delivery. So I really want to know what techniques went in there and that was an unmedicated birth. Which neither Christian and I know anything about. So I am curious to see like what, what do you do when you're just living in all that pain? Cause I really, I really don't know. I don't know and I don't really want to find out. No. But I, like Trish, Go ahead. Our sister in law's had three unmedicated births. She just helped her sister through her first unmedicated birth, although it's her third child. And, um, I mean Trish, Like, she is so smart and she knows all the latest research on everything and with all of her unmedicated births, like, she was very dedicated to, like, practice and the meditation and the breath work and all of the stuff, like, her whole pregnancy. Um, so she's always been very prepared for stuff like that, which I think is incredible. But yeah, I don't know what those things are. And I would love to hear about them, but I don't want to experience them. Yeah. Right. I agree. Zero percent of me wants that. It's like after you get the epidural, you're trying to kind of rest and relax, but your mind is still just going, okay, when's this going to happen? When's this going to happen? So I feel like I'm just kind of laying there and patiently and you do get, you are kind of have like the jitters. It's not like you're comfortable, like able to just like fall asleep. At least I never have. I hope so. I don't know. Well, since last week's episode, should we like, re label this as a pregnancy podcast? Because last week was all postpartum, pre birth sex, and now this is all the journey of, of birth and what it all looks like. Kind of fun. Yeah, this is like, instead of Hot Cakes, a Kardashian podcast, we're like Hot Cakes, a pregnancy podcast. Yes. Yes. Where two of us, two thirds of us have had a few babies. I could talk about this stuff all day. I love to talk about my experience. I love to hear about other people's super interesting. Yeah, I love it too. And I will say, I don't know how you feel Noelle, but like before I had babies, I would listen to someone's birth, birthing story. And I'd always be like, wow. But it would kind of go like in one ear and out the other. Like it, it just like didn't make a ton of sense in my head. But now, having had the experience, I'm, like, obsessed with other people's birth stories. Like, I just love to hear how it happened. Because everyone's is so, like, so different. Yeah, it's pretty much in one ear, out the other. I'm like It's just hard to picture it. It's hard to, like, grasp what people are saying. Yes, but I Like, um, okay. I feel like I have a great grasp on like, well, like postpartum stuff, honestly, because, um, even was with my sister in law last week and got to like meet the new baby and everything. And they were sharing stuff and they kept apologizing to me. They're like, sorry, Noelle, you have to hear this online, girl. Both my sisters have had two babies and I'm pregnant with their third. I've heard all of this before. I'm also a woman, like, I feel like I like to be included, um, but I'm definitely not like marinating on it or really fully understanding the whole story either way. Yeah, but it makes me feel way, way more prepared. I bet. Because I feel like there was so much that I didn't realize until I was actually pregnant or in the postpartum. Oh my gosh. Yeah. There's just so many. Yeah. Y'all just do it a few more times and share with me a few more times. So I'm really, really got the stories down. I'm ready. And then I'll have my time. This might be it for me, TB, we'll, we'll, we'll see. Well, I mean, everyone stay, stay tuned. Christian could be on next week. She could be. She's not gonna be here. Giving birth. We'll never know. Let's just hope that this time next week, I'm happily cuddling a little newborn. Because. Yeah. If she's still on the inside, we're gonna have big problems. She's gonna be, Christian's gonna be raging on the podcast that she's here next week. I was gonna. And we cuddle. And we cuddle. I was gonna. I was gonna ask, did you ever schedule an induction with your previous pregnancies? I know it didn't come to that, but No, I, I never got the chance to. With Sloan, um, my first one, they wouldn't let me schedule until I was 41 weeks. Oh my gosh. Actually, on a scheduled date, they gave me the option to call in every day after 40. To see if they had an opening and so I did that but there was a uh, We get these crazy fires in oregon And there was a fire and so they were like evacuating another hospital. So I would call in every day They're like, nope. Sorry, like hospital's full. We can't have you can't can't bring you in So yeah, that's crazy because I was just thinking because I did schedule an induction with Hadley because my, my office lets you do that. And so I was like, okay, well, I'm willing to go a couple of days past 40, 40 weeks, but I'm not, I'm not waiting forever for this baby. So I scheduled it and it was like a lot of pressure, like picking, picking your babies, you know, for a date to come into the world. Yeah. Oh my gosh, I didn't even think about that. That would be bizarre. It just reminded me of that, how, how much they were trying to get that baby there on October 31st. And I can't believe they missed it by like one minute. I know. 12 AM. I wasn't meant to be. I was like, they should just pretend like it was 11. Yeah. Like just let them lie. I mean, why? Who cares? Y'all are delusional. We gotta Okay, Noelle, I've been there. Like, it's not that serious. Like, they get that baby out and they're not like, where's the clock? They're not immediately For Courtney it was. She wanted him to come when he was ready. And when he wanted to be there. And so that's what she did. Honestly, November 1st is an even better birthday. You get to have all the fun of Halloween leading into your birthday, so. And lots of candy on your birthday. So true. Well, I'm really excited for the next few episodes getting into the Kim and Chloe drama of it all. Don't forget to drop a comment or send me a personal message about who you would like on to cover Christian and send it into the universe that she goes into labor as you're listening to this. Or just share our podcast with your friends or leave a review. There's a lot of other things you could do before actually directly interacting with us. That would help out a lot. That's fair. If you do leave a review, make sure it's a good one because we already said we are not used to people talking negatively about us and us finding out. Exactly. Okay. Love you. Bye. I love you. Bye.