
Hot Kakes: Recapping The Kardashians
Hot Kakes: Recapping The Kardashians
The Kardashians: Kris & Noelle get hearing aids
On this episode of Hot Kakes Morgs is greatly missed as she is too busy traveling to podcast with her sisters. Christian and Noelle prevail on and discuss fun takes and catches, such as Khloe wearing skinny jeans, a Kendall spin off, and the juiciest of all....a Kris and Gerry conspiracy theory.
Yeah. Welcome back to another episode of Hot Cakes. This is Christian. And Noelle. And we're missing our third today. Um, she's out of the country. So honestly, like, don't even feel bad for her. She's in Cancun. She's living her best life. Um, actually, should we tell everyone what happened to Morgan while she was traveling to Cancun? What happened? Well, by what happened, I just mean who they saw. Oh, absolutely. They saw Kim. I'm just kidding. I would lose it. I would lose it. Um, no, they saw Megan Fox herself. Chelsea from Love is Blind. I have never seen like a famous person and reality stars are really weird, like reality stars slash influencers. Cause it's like, what do you say? We saw Tracy Morgan in New York. Yeah, I don't even really know who he is. Oh my gosh, he's pretty famous. Our sister in law got a picture with him. Yeah, she was really excited. But that's Trish. Like, Trish attracts fame, I feel like. Like, you're right. Yeah, the reality star fame is interesting. But yeah, Morgan texted us and said that while she was in the bathroom, her husband in the airport at Cancun swore that he saw Chelsea from Love is Blind. And then a few minutes later, Morgan sends us a screenshot of Chelsea's Instagram story and sure enough, she's in Cancun. So crazy. Hilarious. Yeah, I'm jealous. She took her girls and it looks like they're having a really good time. We just now got some pics, but it's like a kid friendly resort. She told me that there's like a kid daycare that she's planning on like dropping them off at every day. Yes. So nice. Yeah. That's awesome. Yeah, traveling with kids is interesting. We went to Mexico one year for two weeks with just Sloan. I was pregnant with Perry and Sloan was not even, she was like 18 months old and it was seriously like the hardest two weeks ever. Really? Yeah. She just, it was weird because we went to Puerto Vallarta. There's no time change between here and there. For us, for some reason, just being out of her natural habitat. She was waking up at like four and five every morning and she was just, she, she just wanted to eat sand all day. It was just so much worse. Like. Taking care of your child, like, outside of your natural habitat, which is way harder. Yeah. Um, I hope things are going well for Morgan. I will say, we took our two girls to Mexico back in the fall, and we went with family, and so they had cousins, and they were a little bit older, they slept better, things were, things were a lot better. So I think her girls are a little bit older, so I'm like hoping that they have a good experience. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I just can't believe these international babies. Like I didn't go out of the country until I was like 18 or something. It's so funny to me. We're podcasters. What do you expect? I know exactly. That's how they're able to provide off of this podcast. Yeah. You go on all these crazy trips. No, it's funny that you say that because we were with some friends the other night And I have definitely made a lot of friends in my life somehow who just have very, it's like we are not the same. Like they have very different backgrounds than we do did as growing up. And one of them was like making a joke about like as a child at the resort running around and like. Never seeing your parents, like, making friends while you were at the resort, and I'm like, what? I cannot relate to you. I'm dead. I'm like, I didn't go to a resort until, like, two years ago. Like, when, like, Yeah. I've never been, like, my family didn't vacation on a resort. Like, we would go to the beach. I'm not saying we wouldn't vacation, but we would stay in a hotel. We'd all be in, like, two bedrooms, one bedroom, like, sleeping on the ground. Yeah. Yeah. That's what happens when you have five kids though, like the more kids you have, the less you'll be able to like go international and stuff. But I was actually talking about that with Sarah, our sister in law the other day, because like, especially in the summertime, it just becomes like, so in your face, like people doing a Euro summer. And I'm like, what? Yeah. Like, like how exactly I don't understand. I'm happy for you Jealous too. But yeah. I don't even know if I am happy for you to be honest. funny. I'm not gonna lie, I'm not really that happy for you if you're in your, but that's Morgan's update. How have you been? Um, miserable. Really? Yeah. Just, you know, it's, this is just life at the end of pregnancy. Like Yeah. Baths every night it's icy hot every night. It's like. Yeah, but I saw a woman curb walking, um, yesterday and I highly considered rolling down my window and like encouraging her or something. I didn't know what I would say, but I just saw her and I thought of you and I was just like, Oh my gosh, I just want to be like, you can do it. I believe in you or something, but I got too scared. Yeah. I mean, I will say the creepy old man at my gym who talks to me. He did tell me I was looking good, mama, quote, unquote. Oh, so that was kind of nice, kind of gross, kind of weird, but that is too much. Of course, this is coming. This is coming a week after he told me I looked bigger this pregnancy that I did last pregnancy. So, okay. He needs to leave. He's all over the place. He's tracking you. He's like, what are you? 35 weeks and a half. Like he knows. He freaks me out. That's, that's too much. I can't believe that. What is your life update? When, what day are you guys moving? I keep reading to ask you. Um, next Saturday slash Friday. Next week? Yes, girl. So I've been packing and we're going out of town this weekend. Um, we do like an annual camping trip with our friends to Idaho, um, to these hot springs and it's super fun. So it's been booked forever. You know, I can't get out of it. I don't want to get out of it, I'll enjoy myself, but I've just been packing my house as a disaster right now. I'm looking at so many boxes, a donation pile, like, it's a lot. I did not know you guys were leaving that soon. Yeah, the nice thing is we don't technically have to be out of here till the end of July. Um, so we'll have like a two week period of where we're sleeping at our new house. And hopefully everything's over there because we're like going to rent a U Haul trailer and we've asked like all of our friends to help us next week. We just kind of had to pick a day to ask people. Um, so we'll have like two weeks to kind of finish donating crap that we don't want to take and clean and stuff. But yeah, it's a lot. Dang. I mean, you know, you just went through the moving experience. Yeah, I did. And so I don't, I feel, I feel for you, but I feel like grace, like a grace period. Yeah. I feel like even. My move's not even like, that's a big update coming, but I went, like, I'm back from North Carolina. One of my best friends got married, um, last week after we recorded. My sister in law had a baby. She already had a baby? On Monday. Yeah. Oh, wow. Uh huh. That she wasn't due till later this month. I was wrong. She got induced on Monday and had her, had her baby, so I have a new nephew. I don't even know when I'll have time to go meet him, honestly. He'll probably be a month old by the time I make it over there because I have so much crap to do, but kind of crazy. Wow. Good things, all. Good things. okay. So this episode, what were your overall thoughts? Of this episode. Well, I'm actually, I was really happy that you and I are doing this episode solo, no offense to Morgan, but there was a common theme throughout this episode that I was just like, I can't wait to talk to Christian about, which was like Chris's hearing loss. Yes. Yes. I literally have a note in my phone about this. Yeah, so I don't know if you want to start there. Well, yeah, because I was just going to start with the Chloe, Chris, Scott. I mean, that's like what we opened the episode with that like interaction. And I honestly like kind of felt like those three stole the show for me this week. Like every scene that we had of the three of them together, I was like loving it. But um, yeah. Okay. What should we just dive in? Like we open up with. Chloe, Chris, and Scott hanging out at, I think, Chris's house. And of course, this is like, just, I thought the editing was so funny. The way they like, cut around in the different interviews this episode. I just, honestly, this is, okay, I'm all over the place right now, but I was telling Amin that I have been so stoked on this season. This season, we're on the third episode, but it's like, given me new life. With the Kardashians. They listened to our last season and they learned and they're improving. And they are. And I'm just like, I was so, I enjoyed every single segment in this episode. Same. I just thought it was fun. It's funny. It's clever. They're making funny remarks. They're cute. They're, you know, I was like loving it. First, the first thing that I want to say about the opening scene with those three, Chloe was straight up wearing skinny jeans. What? Girl, she walks into her mother's house wearing skinny jeans. They were Shut up. No. No, no, no. I didn't notice that. Yes. It's the first thing I noticed. I was like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. She's wearing skinny jeans? What does that mean? That's not good for the culture. Like, we can't do that again. What do you mean? I got a little nervous. But also, she looks so cute. She was wearing like skinny jeans and a t shirt and like, um, just like some tennis shoes. And I was like, I really vibed that, like that, it just was like bringing me back to like how I always used to dress. You vibed the skinny, like what do you mean you vibed the skinny jeans? I'm not saying I want to wear skinny jeans again, but maybe it was just like, Maybe it was just like a nostalgic situation where I was like, this feels comfortable to me. I thought she looked good. And it was like, you know, I don't, I, my thighs can not go back to skinny jeans, like the imprints going down the side of your leg at the end of the day. And you're low key losing circulation all day. I can't. You make a valid point, but that's why. That's why we're all just going to be on ozempic and it'll be fine. Just like Scott, which they talked about. That was kind of, kind of, I mean, I guess it shouldn't be that crazy to me, but she was just like, you're going to stop losing weight. Right. And he's like, maybe like three more pounds. I'm like, Oh, you sound like someone with a eating disorder. So that's great. Yeah, he definitely, it definitely sounded unhealthy. And it was like, good that Chloe was kind of calling him out. But also I'm like, Chloe, Do you have, like, you kind of have something going on as well that doesn't, isn't super healthy. Yeah. But I would say hearing what Scott was, like, consuming. So funny. So relatable. So relatable. Like, the way he just had no clue that, um, ginger ale was, like, a full sugar soda. That killed me. And the way like that whole conversation, like this is what I'm saying. Like, I feel like we're back. We're back into like a good groove with the Kardashians. Like, the way he's telling them, Oh, I was drinking, I was drinking ginger ale every day. And Khloe's like, you would have one ginger ale a day? Like a whole ginger ale every day? And he's like, no! I was drinking it all day long! Like, that had me rolling. Well, I actually really, I get where he's coming from because for me, like ginger ale or spray is what you're given when you don't feel good. So why wouldn't it be healthy? Like honestly, I get like, it's not like a Coke. It does feel healthier than a Coke and maybe, but yeah, it's the concept of the ginger. I think like people think of ginger as being like, you know, good for you. Like in a turmeric shot, like a little health shot. Sorry. Maybe. But yeah, I've like looked at the, I've looked at ginger ales on the airplane and I've been like, holy cow, that's a ton of sugar. Yeah, I'm never gonna look. He's drinking like, like, he's drinking Coke all day, full sugar Coke all day. He's just sipping it. Yeah, and he's so crazy and packs of Hawaiian rolls. And did you catch that? He said that Kylie keeps him in her car I love that. I love that. I'm like, that's my girl a Hawaiian roll tell me what tastes better than that. Seriously. Oh, I can't there's nothing you could buy from a bakery or Make at your house that tastes better than a Hawaiian roll. No Nothing. So good. Those are his vices. They're so good. So yeah, I loved that whole thing. Um, let's talk about Chris's hearing loss. Should we say on the count of three what we were thinking? Yeah. Wait, I don't know. Okay. Three, two, one. Crystal light. Okay. Okay. We have to get. Okay. Wait, let me start. My initial thought, and we'll get to the crystal light, was that. When Chris started talking about this, I immediately thought of mom and dad, and maybe it's just because I spent time with them recently, but they're, they'd be talking about what's wrong with them. To the point where Elise, Morgan's oldest daughter, um, when Morgan was putting her to bed one night in North Carolina, she said, why are Bibi and Jefe getting old? And Morgan like confronted mom and dad and was like, you need to stop talking about your aging issues. Cause you're concerning your granddaughter. Wait. So what are they saying? Are they just like, this hurts and that hurts? Yeah. Mom had her foot surgery like almost a year ago and it's still an issue. Like, or I mean, her foot's not an issue, but the surgery must be spoken about and just all these things. So then my first thought was like, Oh, Mom and dad are so Chris, but then the more we started talking about the hearing and what was actually going on I was like, I'm low key Chris. You are Noelle can't hear very well. I really can't and so Christian told me Like a year ago or a few it was probably last summer. Oh, it's been multiple It's been a long time since you told me about crystal light. Okay. Well, apparently do you want to share enlighten us? Well, and this is all none of this is science based. This is research based. This is just something my friend told me but apparently Crystal light drinking too much crystal light can cause a ringing in your ear Allegedly, my friend's mom has had this ringing in her ear and she went to her doctor and her doctor was like, Do you drink a lot of Crystal Light? And she was like, every day. And her doctor was like, well, that can cause a ringing in your ear. And this was at the point where I had just started drinking Crystal Light and I was like, no, no, no, no. Like, I don't want to give this up. And so I did a quick You know, a 32nd Google search. And it's not so much, at least according to the first post on Google that I saw that popped up, it's not so much crystal light in and of itself, but it's like the sweeteners, like artificial sweeteners could potentially do that to you. I don't know, but like, I get a ringing in my ear from time to time. I do. I literally do. Like, so Christian put me on Crystal Light. This is actually all of her fault. I was on V8 Energy before this. Then she showed me this concoction. I think we've maybe talked about it before. I want to make a TikTok of it because I think I will go viral. Sure. But it's peach mango crystal light. Coconut coffee creamer. Incredible. I can't even. So I've been drinking that like every day for like two years. And then I'm sitting there and my ears are ringing. And I'm like, Oh my gosh, it's happening. My crystal light is in my hand though. And I'm like, I don't care to hear these bitches anyways. Let it ring. I can't. I'm like, I can't give it up. Sometimes the ringing is really bad. Worth it and it's the preferred sound too. Yeah, I had a lot of empathy for Chris Bitches. Um, yeah, so I was dying. I was like, wait, does Chris drink a bunch of crystal light? Because that What's going on here? Well the doctor Like when she does go to that appointment was like, you know, no caffeine Right, that's true. He did tell her to like cut that out. I honestly like I just loved The every time that Scott and Chris and Chloe were together and then in the doctor's office It was Scott and Chris and Kendall. I just thought they were so funny. Like they were killing me and um, yeah, like when the doctor's telling her like You know, you just got to cut all these different things out, the alcohol, which I know you don't drink much of. And Chris kind of looks at the camera and she's totally fine. He's like, yeah, your ears are totally fine. You don't need hearing aids. And, um, I just thought that scene was so funny. And Scott was like killing me in that scene. Yeah. It cuts to Scott. He's like biting his knuckles. Like how is she going to do this? But I guess to follow along that same theme, And then we can jump to the other storylines. Do you, who do you feel like in our family if anyone would be a hypochondriac? I don't know if we have a hypochondriac. Um, but I, but I do know my mom talks about her ailments a lot. Yeah, I, I was thinking that I would maybe be one if I had this kind of money. Sure. These kind of resources, because I actually just made a doctor's appointment last week. Apparently, I kind of want to get back on anxiety meds. I've been real on it, and then also I was like, I would like to do like an annual physical aside from the gynecologist. Just to like, make sure I'm doing well and aging properly. I got a few warts I could use frozen off. You know, the usual. But I'm like, You're probably fine just with the gyno, to be honest. But, um, I think? They don't talk to me about anything else. You don't have anything else wrong with you. I did a year ago. So that would have been real nice to have a family physician to help me out in that moment. A yearly physical would not have caught that. I know, but I'm still like, I'm like, Do I really want to just go to urgent care every time I have a cold? No, I think everyone should have a family doctor. Yeah. You should get in with a family doctor, but that doesn't mean you have to, I, you know, I shouldn't even be talking. If people want to go see a doctor regularly, go do it. That's what I'm saying. If I had the time and money, I would probably be like them. Like, what is this ringing in my ear? Yeah. But like, we're never gonna go get our ears checked. I ain't gonna listen to what they tell me. No. Cut out Crystal, I'm gonna say, never mind. Over my dead body. Yeah. Um, yeah, I think you're probably fine. But yeah, no, it's a good idea to go look into getting back on some anxiety meds. Maybe, maybe you should cut out the crystallite for the caffeine. Literally. I'm just like contradicting. I pop the anxiety meds and I take two crystallites. It doesn't matter. Two shots of everything she can find that's caffeinated. Um, yeah, no, I think that's good. It's all good for you, you know? And I actually think growing up, you were something of a hypochondriac, but you have not been so bad lately. Why was I a hypochondriac growing up? I just feel like you always thought you were sick, and granted, maybe you were because you were, like, throwing up all the time. Oh my gosh, I throw up, y'all. I don't ha I do throw up. Way more than the average adult, like at least twice a year, sometimes three to four times a year. Most people most adults don't know the last time they threw up. No, and maybe that's something you should talk to your new family physician about Yeah, but also maybe I was just trying to get attention when I was younger because I couldn't get any or I just needed more So that's why I was a hypochondriac. I do have a friend who's almost Three year old, no, almost two year old daughter will, like, cry so hard she makes herself throw up and she gets out of everything doing it. Oh, no. She gets out of the crib, she gets out of going to nursery, she gets out of, like, a babysitter, and she's talking, my friends talk to her pediatrician and her pediatrician is like, you know, she's totally healthy and fine and it probably is, like, she knows that that's how she gets the response she wants. I'm like two, not even two. I'm dead. That's horrible. That's horrible. Okay, so, after our initial Chris Chloe Scott convo at Chloe's, uh, Chris's house, um, we then get a little glimpse of Kim going to jury duty, and I just kind of wanted to Speak on her like the her drive. There's like two different scenes where she's driving a jury duty one when she's kind of talking about Trying to get out of it and I am like shocked that famous people even get pulled into jury duty I was floored. Well, have you seen the show jury duty? Okay I was just making sure. Um, I was shocked by that because I mean that's, that show is the most knowledge I have of jury duty and like what it entails and they make it pretty clear that if you're a public figure and this would draw a lot of attention that you can't do it. Yeah, and having Kim on your jury. Yeah, that would draw so much attention. Yeah, so yeah, and then yeah and to her point and I even thought this before she said it but I'm like Kim has been fighting for like prison reform and you know, so interesting. But the second shot of her. On her way to jury duty. She calls someone we don't know'cause she's not on speaker phone, which usually they, when they're on the phone with each other, they're on speaker phone. She calls some anonymous source and she wants to vent about her kids and how crazy they are. And I just wanted to talk about that for a second and like how Kim has. You know, we've mentioned in the last episode too, she's pretty notorious for just like being gone all the time, being a workaholic, and um, she's, this episode she talks on it a little bit, but she thinks that like Chloe needs to just go with the flow a little bit more, and um, I was just kind of thinking as I was listening to her vent about her kids behavior, I think there's a lot of things at play, but as someone who knows a thing or two about kids, and not because I've studied, but because of just like my life experience. I've studied kids. Oh, okay. Okay. So yeah, someone who has a little bit of like research under their belt and then someone who has like some hood street search under my belt. Um, I just think, I honestly think kids really struggle when there's not a strict schedule, when there's not a schedule that they can rely on and when there isn't someone guiding them. I don't think kids do well when they, okay, I heard this analogy from one of my favorite Instagram child therapists that I get all of my knowledge from and try to base some of my parenting around. It's this, like, if you were on an airplane, And there was chaos. There was some kind of craziness going on. And the pilot came on and was sort of like, Hey, what do you guys want to do about this? Like, you guys vote. Like, we can emergency land. Or, I don't, like, what do you want to do? It's up to you. Like, how panicked would you feel? I would literally die. I would literally have a panic attack. Oh, 100%! I'd be like, you tell me! You're the one in charge. You're the one who knows what's going on. You've done this before. Yeah. So it's the idea that as a parent you are that pilot and you kind of have to be when there's chaos and things are all hell is breaking loose. You have to be the one who takes control and says this is how we're gonna do things. And, you know, do it, and then do what you've said you're going to do. And that's what kids need, and that's what helps kids to feel secure in their attachment. And so I just don't know if Kim's lifestyle is, like, even capable of providing that for her kids. It's definitely not kid friendly, definitely not, and I agree with like, the consist It's like, you have to have one or the other. You either have to have a great schedule, or a consistent person. And these kids have neither, from what it appears, and like, also just The attention from a parent is really important, and it's like, they wouldn't be acting this way, or maybe they would, but not to the degree, at least, that she's complaining about, if they had, like, appropriate attention from their mom. And it's, it's kind of hard, because it really makes, like, I go to this place of, You know, in my head, I'm like, oh, great, like, rich people should have kids because they can actually provide for them and whatever, whatever. But then in these scenarios, I'm like, you're not really attending at all to, like, their emotional needs, like you said, their attachment, like, yes, they can go anywhere they want, have any material thing that they want, but that innate need to connect with your parent is not gonna be met with this lifestyle. So, Right. And it's hard to watch her complain about it. Yeah, it is. And it's a little bit hard to watch her vent about being this single mom of four while she's driving away to, you know, jury duty or to a birthday or her own birthday party. Where she forgot to say goodbye to her kids because she has like four nannies and a glam team. Yeah, I was thinking that I was like should I ask christian if she's ever forgot to say goodbye to her kids and then i'm like In what world would that actually happen? Because your kids are Like, like to what you said last week, they're playing in your makeup next to you while you're trying to get ready for date night. Or while you're trying to get ready for girls night. There's no world in which you forget, maybe intentionally, if like, you're in a crowded house, you slip out so they don't notice and get really upset. Yeah, and I've done that. I have, I have done that before. I haven't had to in a while because they're pretty well adjusted and they enjoy having a babysitter now. But yeah, I've had that before where I like don't draw attention to myself leaving and I don't know if that's like the best way to do it, but it's just like what you have to do sometimes. But yeah, I mean, it's just been like back to back episodes of Kim talking about her kids and just me kind of like feeling like cringe about it. Same. And did you notice, um, at her birthday party while we're talking about Cam, that she said she's never seen a therapist? Yeah. I was mind blown by that. Really? Yes, I don't know why. I guess because like, Chloe and Kendall and Courtney have all been open about like, their therapy journeys. And there's unlimited resources for her and she's been through so much shit that I would say, Like, it feels extremely necessary for her to go to therapy. And that was almost like a missing puzzle piece for me on Kim. And where I've been feeling about her this season where I was like, Oh, so this is why you're a workaholic. This is why you're extremely detached from your reality within your family unit. Like, okay. You need some therapy. You need some help. That's interesting. I didn't think that much of it because I've never actively seen a therapist. I think I've seen one One time to get a, like, certificate for my dog to fly on the plane with me. Mm hmm. And it was a great, it was a good experience, and I think, like, yeah, I could probably benefit. And there are times in my life where I want to see a therapist, I just, like, haven't made it happen. Yeah. But I guess I've never felt, like, oh, everyone needs a therapist. Like I, I don't know, I feel like most of my regular problems I can solve just talking it out with friends. Things like Kim alluded to. Yeah. Um, no, you make a good point. I think like Kim is the picture of someone who needs a therapist. Well, even when we take away like, like her fame and all of the stuff that's happened with Kanye, and we just get down to the fact that like, her, she had a parent die prematurely. Like, that alone, if it's an average Joe on the street, you would probably say, like, Oh yeah, like, you could benefit from therapy. Your father passed away in your young adulthood from cancer and your parents went through a divorce right before that. Like, you know what I mean? Aside from then all of the actual, like, the additional issues that she's had. Sure. Yeah, I think and uh, I don't know if I've said this to you before and since you're a therapist I hope you don't take this the wrong way sometimes I kind of struggle with like the concept of therapy and I know it's become and I'm glad that it's not so stigmatized anymore because I think if people feel like they need to see a therapist They should See a therapist and there should be nothing like it doesn't mean anything about you or your well being or what type of person you are, like, you know, there used to just be such a strong stigma attached to like attending therapy or going to couples therapy must mean that you guys are in trouble, you know, yeah, of course, none of that's true. And so I'm glad that that stigma is gone. But sometimes I, I feel like therapy becomes a little bit weaponized. I've also, like, talked to people, or I've heard from you about people who have these experiences with therapists, where, and I have, I'm close with someone who has, who I think has an extremely unhealthy dynamic with their therapist, and I just am like, maybe some things are better left, like, buried, you know? But I, but I think you're right. Like, I think Kim buries her trauma in a way that is not, that would probably be fine if she didn't have children involved. Yeah. And wouldn't be sustainable if she wasn't who she is. Right. Yeah. And I am glad that it's work and not drugs. And she still isn't present. At all and is chasing something that she'll never find. But yeah, it's really hard. I think if I could guarantee that everyone was going to see what I would like classify as a good therapist, then I would say everyone should go. Because a good therapist will say to your face, and I've done this with clients, I've said, that's just kind of a normal life thing. And there's not much we can do about that. Yeah. Like let's not try to relate it to your childhood or something like that's Just accepting being human and part of the experience, but not all therapists will do that because they have their own motives or they want to feel like they're changing people's lives or whatever. So anyway, that was just very shocking information to me, but I do like seeing all of her girls at her birthday party. Like I thought she has lifers. Yeah. I just thought that was so cute. Like she's Kim freaking Kardashian and she still has girlfriends from high school that she's like. Going that are going to be a part of her life forever. I love that. And yeah, I mean like to her point about Therapy and friends like my friend. I don't I honestly don't know what I would do without my friends Yeah, and I think there's something really Powerful with women and their friendships. Like Ammon has so many friends and he's actually way better at keeping in touch with his long distance friends than I am. I'm horrible at it. Like I think about my friends often and I will try to like shoot them a text or send them a real, but like, I don't call them as much as I should or like ever, but I think about them a lot and I love them when I see them, like I get so excited. Yeah. He'll call them. He'll actually like maintain, you know, like that kind of a relationship with them. But I just feel like my relationship with my friends is borderline spiritual for me and for him, it's just like fun. Do you know what I mean? But for me, it's survival. I feel that way too. There's certain friends where it's like a deep, deep, like soulmate connection. You're just like, it's. It's elevated. It's not all of them, but when you do find that Yeah. It's like, okay, this is really important. Yeah. Totally. And like this time of life to, I mean, for me at least to, to have other women who have other children and we're all kind of like just getting through it together is really cool. So yeah, I feel like that's, um, that sums up Kim's storyline mostly. Do you, should we talk about, um, this was actually way more of an enjoyable scene for me than I thought it was going to be. Dinner with Gary. Totally. Totally. Yeah. Okay. So you didn't watch golden bachelor. I didn't. I watched a few episodes here and there. I very much stay in pop culture. So I like heard what was going on as it was happening. I love, and I know that you saw the memes of like the women on the season that looked like Chris and Caitlin. Yeah. I love that like Kindle had the awareness of that. And it's just so funny. Oh, she's just seeing the same tick tock that I did. Yeah, or like the same memes that I did and that she can like play with that with Chris. Um, but I was wondering, I was also laughing because I know that they're divorced now. They, did they ever get married? I don't think they got married. They got married. They had a live marriage, like a bachelor produced marriage, which I felt really icky about because it was just all past contestants. From other seasons that I'm like these two old people don't know these people from Adam Like let them get married with their family members and their bingo friends and move on. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, and so they're divorced now, though So that kind of made added the layer to it for me But I was I was building a conspiracy in my head. I didn't know that they had gotten married I just thought that they were engaged and then like ended their relationship. I was building a conspiracy in my head. I was like, didn't they, they broke up like in January of this year. Right. And then that was filmed in like October of last year. So is there any connection to that dinner? Like, did he and Chris, like, did anything happen? Like, did they hit it? I would die. I was like trying so hard to like, Stir the pot. Well, Chris was killing me. I have a boyfriend. Yeah, not a secret husband. I would have loved it in that moment. I have a husband. Yeah, that would have been so good. But I was wondering if, um, If they had to like, pay off Kendall to not leak it, who he ends up with, or like, the fact that, I'm sure she had to sign something before he came over, or like, maybe she just respects the show because she's a fan, and so she didn't want to ruin it for other, I guess maybe she's only two weeks early to the news. The rest of world was gonna find out. And it's also a Hulu production, right? Was Golden Bachelor, Hulu. Oh wait, you are right. I think it's all in the same family. But I, I would assume, I mean, I don't know, maybe they did have her sign something, but I would just assume that like Kindle, like what? Like you really think she's gonna leak that? Like, she'll probably tell her friends Yeah. If they wanna know. Mm-Hmm. But she's not like, she's nothing to gain from leaking it. Unless she's secretly reality Steve. That'd be so funny. Come to find out. XOXO It's actually Kendall. I just would love to have been, was her friend, her friend's name was Hannah or something? I don't know. I can't remember, but she's just such an average joe. I swear I have the sweatshirt that she was wearing. It's from Old Navy. I'm pretty sure. And I was like, I don't know. Wait, who are you and where'd you come from? Because like, I almost want like a spinoff for Kendall lately. Like these last two episodes I'm like, wait, I want a spinoff for her.'cause I don't know who her lifers are. Wouldn't that be creepy? Last season, Kendall was like the least favorite person on the show. And now you want in a spinoff? Yeah, I do. She's like giving us more than she's ever given. That's true. That is true. And it's like opened me up like this curiosity. I'm Kendall curious because like we know all of Kim's lifers. I recognize them. Like I've seen them, but who's this girl? I don't know, but I want to know. Yeah. Like how does she meet some of her friends that aren't fellow supermodels? How do you become best friends with a supermodel? Exactly. But I mean, like she went to high school. She was a cheerleader. Yeah. I don't know either. I was intrigued by her friend and I just loved watching them grill him. Like I just, again, like that edit, that scene, the way it was edited, where they're just question after question after question, he's just like, Oh, like, I didn't watch the show, but I know that he was like very much loved by his, the viewers. And. He was just so funny to me like he was just so dorky and goofy and like such a typical like 60 something year old man like a little out of touch but trying to be sweet but he was like this is just what well this is just the best day ever this is just literally i'm like how the hell did this average joe old man end up at chris dinner's house living my dream Literally, like, I hate him a little bit. Yeah. We're out here busting our asses, putting out a podcast every week. We've been doing a podcast for how many years and we've yet to be invited to the Queen's house and this geezer just shows up out of nowhere? He probably didn't even know their names. Like, couldn't even work FaceTime. Yeah. Although, I don't think he had an iPhone, it didn't look like it was an iPhone. Maybe it was. When they were, the second they got on his phone, I was like, they're gonna see something they're not supposed to. I knew it. You can't be messing on people's phones. I was hoping it'd be nudes, but eight. And that was another thing when she was like, she called her when Kendall was like, he called her eight times. I was like, Oh, was there already trouble in paradise? And why are you calling somebody eight times? Yeah, probably. But dialed her like, just didn't know what was going on. He didn't know he was calling her. He's on his way there unaware. Um, yeah. So then Golden Bachelor, they have dinner together, they watch the show together, which I think would be so weird to watch yourself with other people. It would just be so weird. But, um, our next, the next thing that happens chronologically speaking, um, Courtney is doing that photo shoot. I have to say, yet again, like, I'm so Laid the house down boots! Absolutely! Like, she looked gorgeous! And I was dying when they were talking about getting glam before giving birth. I was going to ask you, yeah, so when I was pregnant with Sloan, like towards the end, I was like curling my hair every day, just in case, you know, just in case. And then of course she comes like in the middle of the night and I was wrecked anyway, but I mean, I don't know. I feel like a lot of. Influencers, like, have these super cutesy outfits on and they have their hair and makeup done and, like, they look very pretty after giving birth. And I can, like, barely get myself to get out of bed and, like, rinse my face off. I haven't, after both of my babies, after Sloan, honestly, like, I didn't even know I would be allowed to shower. Like, I mean, I don't know why I assumed I wasn't, but I just, like, stayed in that gown, in the gown that they gave you. Stayed in it my whole stay. Didn't brush my, like, didn't even go into the bathroom other than to use the bathroom. Like, didn't brush my teeth. Didn't brush my teeth, didn't brush my hair, didn't wash my face, didn't shower. So you were crusty. I was so crusty, but I didn't really know that I could. For some reason, I just didn't think about it like that. And I also just like didn't feel like it. Like I didn't want to. And those shower, the showers in the hospital are like not super nice. And so even after I had Perry, I was more like, oh, I'll bring stuff to shower. But I was like, the shower is just like not nice. Like I would rather shower at my house. Oh, okay. And I've only been there for 24 hours with both of them. Sure. I'm sure the longer stay I would do more. But yeah, like I remember thinking, I like with Perry, I like braided my hair. I like got up, I like brushed my hair, braided it, had Ammon take some pictures of me. No, no. They looked so bad. They probably looked like a 12 year old who just gave birth. Braids are not the answer. Well, it wasn't even that. I had the worst haircut of my life. And so I thought that like my baby was like swoopy to the side in these pictures. And it was sort of like a swooped pulled back situation, but really it was just like huge chunks of hair that just hung to my chin and then pulled back. But yeah, I mean my melasma gets It's so bad that it would take literally full coverage to like cover that up and I'm not going to do that in the hospital. But if you could afford it, would you pay for glam or no, you just don't care? I mean, nothing. I mean, you could afford it right now, but you know what I'm saying? Probably not. I just don't like, it takes me a while after birth to like, want to put on something cute. To do something. Yeah. Like I don't even know how these moms do these like photo shoots. The day after they give birth or whatever. Cause I'm like, why are you, you're putting on clothes? Like that's crazy on a real outfit and you're actually putting on makeup. Like I just don't even have the desire. The desire for me is just not non existent. I also, so I've seen an influencer. I like watch her birth video a few years ago, which I think birth videos are really not like her giving the birth, but you know what I'm saying? I thought it was really beautiful. I cried. But she had mascara on and it was not the right call because she was crying and sweating and it was just all over her face. So I do think like, you have to be careful. My sister in law who just gave birth. When she sent out the pictures, I actually remember thinking like she looks really good. She looks really pretty. They induced her in the morning, and then they were being really annoying and like didn't come until literally nine o'clock at night to like actually get things going. So I'm wondering if like she had all day and was just bored like stuck in the hospital. So she put makeup on or something. She usually always has like eyelash extensions, I think. Yeah, and usually does like a self tanner spray tan. So I'm like, maybe I would consider having just like those types of things But I don't know. I'm not really into that right now as is but I think The last thing you think about totally I mean, I think like to me that picture that they showed of Chris looked so unnatural Yeah, just looked weird. Like she's holding this baby and she's like Like everything's done up. She's got like jewelry on and maybe it was the style of the time, like the lipstick and the crazy necklace and like, I think a little tan, a little base tan looks nice. Some, yeah, like if your eyelashes, you know, can look super, Natural but thick like mine don't do that. So even with mascara like mine don't do that But yeah, if you have like good pair of fake lashes and they don't bother you then yeah I I'd recommend something like that, but I don't know. Yeah, it's so funny glam to get fully glammed before you give birth Like that. But like some things never changed. I was having a flashback moment of her. Was she in Miami when she gave birth to Mason? Mmm, I don't think she was in Miami when she gave birth, but around those years. Yeah, but her water breaks And she I literally can remember the scene Scott's running around like a chicken with his head cut off She gets in the shower, she's doing her makeup, blow drying her hair. I'm like, court's gonna court. That's just who she is. Can't blame them. I cannot blame them. Um, so after that, we pretty much just wrap it up, right, with Kim's birthday? Yeah, yeah. There was a little scene, a little clip, somewhere in there, of frickin Scott being stupid and asking Khloe if Tristan I'm like, they literally just tell him to ask that and tell her to take a pause before she responds so they can possibly use it in a commercial or something. Um, do you think though that like, they don't, cause sometimes I wonder with the questions that they ask each other, like do they only see each other when they're filming? I think, I hope not, but I think that there's a lot of truth for that. Thing. So yeah, I mean, I was like, how have they not had this conversation? But yeah, I thought that was interesting. Like the dating and the, and the honestly, like Chloe's response, like I only have between like nine and 4 30 AM and I'm like not sharing that time with anyone. Like, yeah, I get that. But yeah, that was, that was interesting. And I'm glad that she shut that down so fast, but I also don't fully believe it. So who knows? I would assume my assumption is that they're, they hook up from time to time. Cause why not? I can't even have this conversation, but yeah, I don't, I honestly like, I think this is why last season was so frustrating is because there was just so much Talk about him. There was so much Tristan talk that like we got so bugged by that And there's so much anxiety talk that we got so bugged by that and i'm like so happy. We haven't really had any of that um So yeah, let's like not even go there because exactly i'm gonna give him a Um, so yeah, then kim's birthday party I wanted to just talk briefly about how stunning I thought they all looked Oh, yeah. They looked great. Chloe's dress, I thought she was gorgeous. Mm hmm. Him's dress was stunning. And then I just loved, like, Kylie coming in an hour late. And, and Chloe's like, but Kylie's just the fireworks at the end of the night. Yep. I thought that was so sweet because Kylie is like that. Like, she just kind of lights everything up. I've never been in a room with her, but I would imagine that she would just light up the room when she walks in. I want to be her. I know. That's who I want to spin off of. I want King Kylie, Life of Kylie coming back current day. A girl can dream. We can. We can, we can manifest, we can put it in the universe maybe one day. Okay, do you have any final closing thoughts? Um, I don't think so. I think we're on the brink of some sort of Kim Khloe drama, which I'm like, I don't I'm not super into, but I'm whatever, like, it'll be interesting. I'm enjoying the way the season's going. So same, I've been very happy with the last three episodes. So I just hope we keep moving along and it stays in this vein. Yeah. Me too. Definitely. Okay. Well, we'll, uh, find out more next week, I guess. Okay. Love you. Bye. Love you. Bye.